Legislature(2021 - 2022)ADAMS 519

01/28/2022 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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01:34:44 PM Start
01:35:51 PM HB283
01:35:55 PM Overview: Hb 282, Hb 283, Hb 284 Capital Budget by Office of Management and Budget
02:54:57 PM HB285
02:55:09 PM Overview: Hb 285 G.o. Bonds for Infrastructure by Office of Management and Budget
03:36:46 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HB 283 APPROP: CAP; REAPPROP; SUPP TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ HB 285 G.O. BONDS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Overview: FY 23 Capital Budget and G.O. Bond TELECONFERENCED
Projects by Neil Steininger, Director, Office of
Management and Budget
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     January 28, 2022                                                                                           
                         1:34 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:34:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  called the House Finance  Committee meeting                                                                    
to order at 1:34 p.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Kelly Merrick, Co-Chair via teleconference                                                                       
Representative Dan Ortiz, Vice-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Ben Carpenter                                                                                                    
Representative Bryce Edgmon                                                                                                     
Representative DeLena Johnson                                                                                                   
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Bart LeBon                                                                                                       
Representative Sara Rasmussen via teleconference                                                                                
Representative Steve Thompson                                                                                                   
Representative Adam Wool                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Neil Steininger, Director, Office  of Management and Budget,                                                                    
Office of the Governor.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Theresa Cross,  Administrative Service  Director, Department                                                                    
of  Natural  Resources,  Office of  Management  and  Budget,                                                                    
Office of the Governor;  Bob Ernisse, Administrative Service                                                                    
Director,  Department  of  Military  and  Veterans  Affairs,                                                                    
Office  of Management  and Budget,  Office of  the Governor;                                                                    
Deven  Mitchell, Executive  Director, Alaska  Municipal Bond                                                                    
Bank Authority, Department of Revenue.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 283    APPROP: CAP; REAPPROP; SUPP                                                                                           
          HB 283 was HEARD and HELD in committee for                                                                            
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HB 285    G.O. BONDS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          HB 285 was HEARD and HELD in committee for                                                                            
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
OVERVIEW: HB  282, HB 283,  HB 284 CAPITAL BUDGET  BY OFFICE                                                                    
OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
OVERVIEW: HB 285 G.O. BONDS  FOR INFRASTRUCTURE BY OFFICE OF                                                                    
MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster reviewed the agenda for the day.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 283                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act   making  appropriations,   including  capital                                                                    
     appropriations,     reappropriations,     and     other                                                                    
     appropriations;  making   supplemental  appropriations;                                                                    
     and providing for an effective date."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:35:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW: HB 282,  HB 283, HB 284 CAPITAL  BUDGET BY OFFICE                                                                  
OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:35:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NEIL STEININGER, DIRECTOR, OFFICE  OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET,                                                                    
OFFICE   OF   THE   GOVERNOR,  introduced   the   PowerPoint                                                                    
Presentation: "HB  282, HB 283,  HB 284 Capital  Budget." He                                                                    
focused on the  FY 2023 Capital Budget  request and included                                                                    
capital  projects  in the  Mental  Health  Budget, [HB  283]                                                                    
Supplemental   Budget   and   the  [HB   284]   Fast   Track                                                                    
Supplemental budget.  He turned  to Slide 2  titled  Capital                                                                    
Budget  History FY  2013  -  FY 2023.   He  pointed to  2013                                                                    
denoted  on the  graph and  explained that  it was  the last                                                                    
year  significant capital  spending  occurred  prior to  the                                                                    
decline in oil  revenues. He delineated that FY  2016 and FY                                                                    
2017 experienced  very low  Unrestricted General  Fund (UGF)                                                                    
spending offset  by use  of reappropriations,  which created                                                                    
an artificially lower capital budget  in terms of investment                                                                    
into  state  infrastructure.  Between  2016  and  the  prior                                                                    
year's capital budget  most of the capital  spending was for                                                                    
state matching funds for federal  programs like Village Safe                                                                    
Water  (VSW) and  the  Statewide Transportation  Improvement                                                                    
Program (STIP). A larger capital  proposal was introduced in                                                                    
FY 22.  In FY 23,  the administration was proposing  an even                                                                    
larger capital budget to help address the built-up backlog.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:38:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  continued to Slide 3  titled  Capital Budget                                                                    
Five Year Overview FY 2018    FY 2022.  The bar graph showed                                                                    
additional  fund   source  detail  including   COVID  relief                                                                    
funding over  a 5 year  perspective. He pointed to  the grey                                                                    
box which  depicted traditional  federal funding  versus the                                                                    
light  blue areas  depicting federal  COVID relief  funding,                                                                    
which was  $135.9 million in FY  23. The larger gray  bar in                                                                    
FY  23 represented  the proposed  use of  General Obligation                                                                    
(GO) bonds for capital projects.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:39:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster confirmed Co-Chair Merrick was online.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz  referred to the  FY 21 Covid  spending. He                                                                    
wondered  if the  light blue  areas represented  all of  the                                                                    
federal phases  of Covid funding. Mr.  Steininger replied in                                                                    
the  affirmative  but added  that  it  represented only  the                                                                    
amount directly applied to capital projects.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:41:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger   advanced  to   slide  4   titled   Federal                                                                    
Infrastructure Bill (IIJA):                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ? Enacted November 15, 2021 - 5-year authorization of                                                                      
     both established and new  federal programs                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
    ? No broad discretionary funding  not a relief bill                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     ? New program details still pending                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     ? Federal infrastructure spending and priorities                                                                           
     primarily established by federal agencies, not by                                                                          
     Alaska                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     ? Funding is about 60% formula and 40% grants                                                                              
     (competitive and discretionary)                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     ? Congress currently under FFY21 Continuing Resolution                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
          ? Some program funding appropriated in the bill,                                                                      
          others pending                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Steininger   elaborated    that   the   Infrastructure                                                                    
Investment   and  Jobs   Act  (IIJA)   bill  had   a  5-year                                                                    
authorization of  established and new federal  programs. The                                                                    
state would have to compete  for some of the federal funding                                                                    
that  added to  uncertainty regarding  how much  funding the                                                                    
state would receive.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:43:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon asked  how  much of  the money  would                                                                    
flow  through the  Department of  Transportation and  Public                                                                    
Facilities (DOT).  He understood  that a  significant amount                                                                    
would go through  the one agency. He asked if  the influx of                                                                    
federal  funding created  a  need  for additional  operating                                                                    
funding. Mr.  Steininger responded  that a large  portion of                                                                    
IIJA  would go  towards  surface funding.  He would  provide                                                                    
additional  information  about  the  federal  infrastructure                                                                    
bill  in  the  future  as more  information  was  known.  He                                                                    
confirmed  that  additional  adjustments  to  DOTs   capital                                                                    
budget would  be necessary.  Representative Edgmon  asked if                                                                    
additional  adjustments  to  the operating  budget  for  DOT                                                                    
would be  necessary. Mr. Steininger replied  that the design                                                                    
work  was paid  through the  surface transportation  program                                                                    
via interagency  receipts that also paid  into the operating                                                                    
budget.  Currently,  the  state's  highway  maintenance  was                                                                    
being   paid  with   some  available   discretionary  relief                                                                    
funding.  He  informed  the committee  that  as  the  relief                                                                    
funding was  spent down,  to expect  adjustments in  the DOT                                                                    
operating   budget  replacing   relief  funding   with  UGF.                                                                    
Representative  Edgmon discussed  that with  the Coronavirus                                                                    
Aid,  Relief,  and  Economic Security  (CARES)  Act  funding                                                                    
there was a  60-day window for federal  guidelines. He asked                                                                    
why  the guidelines  for  IIJA  were taking  so  long to  be                                                                    
published.  Mr. Steininger  deduced that  IIJA was  a 5-year                                                                    
program,  and  the  expediency of  relief  funding  did  not                                                                    
apply.  He thought  that the  federal  government was  being                                                                    
more    thoughtful    about   the    guidelines    regarding                                                                    
infrastructure investment .                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:48:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson asked  what  the  amount of  state                                                                    
match  would be  for IIJA  projects. Mr.  Steininger replied                                                                    
that  the  state  match  would be  10  percent  for  surface                                                                    
infrastructure. However,  not every program would  require a                                                                    
10 percent match. For some  programs the matching amount was                                                                    
still undisclosed and for items  such as VSW the state match                                                                    
was  25  percent.  Representative  Josephson  asked  if  the                                                                    
administration  was  building  the   state  match  into  the                                                                    
budget.  Mr. Steininger  indicated  that the  administration                                                                    
was  keeping the  state match  component in  mind. He  would                                                                    
come back to  the committee with more information  as it was                                                                    
known.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Carpenter  understood  that much  was  still                                                                    
unknown  about  IIJA.  He  asked  if  there  was  additional                                                                    
information  for  what  projects  were certain  and  if  Mr.                                                                    
Steininger could  provide a list.  Mr. Steininger  agreed to                                                                    
provide the list.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thompson inquired whether  the amount of IIJA                                                                    
funding the  state would receive  was known.  Mr. Steininger                                                                    
ascertained that the amount would  be in the billions over 5                                                                    
years. There  was a  wide range of  funding the  state might                                                                    
receive  because some  of the  funding  was offered  through                                                                    
competitive grants.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:52:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger moved  to Slide  5 titled   FY 2023  Capital                                                                    
Budget and Supplemental Overview.   He drew attention to the                                                                    
UGF total for mental health  and regular capital spending of                                                                    
$154.7  million and  $93 million  UGF  for all  supplemental                                                                    
capital  spending. The  proposed  total between  all of  the                                                                    
different  funding  sources  amounted to  $2.1  billion.  He                                                                    
furthered that  the administration took a  more conservative                                                                    
baseline budgeting approach to the  FY 23 Capital Budget and                                                                    
based on available cash and  the Fall Revenue Forecast built                                                                    
out   the   budget   to    make   investments   in   capital                                                                    
infrastructure. He noted that there  was a significant FY 22                                                                    
surplus.  He   mentioned  that  the  GO   Bond  package  was                                                                    
predicated   on  addressing   communities  needs   and  took                                                                    
advantage of available financing.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:54:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carpenter  asked about the asterisk  after HB
285 GO  Bond column on  the chart. Mr.  Steininger explained                                                                    
that it denoted  a late addition to the GO  Bond package for                                                                    
the  Kodiak  Fire  Station  that was  not  included  in  the                                                                    
capital budget bill but would  be added as an amendment. The                                                                    
item  was   added  to  the   GO  Bond  bill  prior   to  its                                                                    
introduction.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:55:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger advanced  to slide 6 titled   FY 2023 Capital                                                                    
Budget Snapshot  that broke down  capital spending by budget                                                                    
sources  per  department.  He  highlighted  that  the  chart                                                                    
showed the  departments that received  the bulk of  UGF also                                                                    
received significant federal funding.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  indicated  that  Representative  Rasmussen                                                                    
joined the meeting.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:56:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  turned Slide 7  titled  FY 2023  Projects by                                                                    
Department:                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Commerce, Community & Economic Development                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
          1. Alaska   Energy    Authority    -    Electrical                                                                  
             Emergencies Program $200.0 UGF                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
          2. Community Block Grants $6,315.0 ($6,250.0 Fed,                                                                   
             $65.0 GF Match)                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
          3. National Petroleum Reserve - Alaska Impact                                                                       
             Grant Program $13,800.0 Fed                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
        4. Inter-Island Ferry Authority $250.0 UGF                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
          4. Alaska Energy Authority - Bulk Fuel Upgrades                                                                     
             $13,000.0 ($7,500.0 Fed, $5,500.0 GF Match)                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          5. Alaska Energy Authority - Rural Power Systems                                                                    
             Upgrades $20,000.0 ($10,000 Fed, $10,000.0 PCE)                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
          6. Alaska Energy Authority - Round XIV Renewable                                                                    
             Energy Project Grants (AS 42.45.045) $15,000.0                                                                     
            Renewable Energy Grant Fund                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          7. Alaska Travel Industry Association $5,000.0 Fed                                                                  
               CSLFRF                                                                                                           
          8. Alaska Energy Authority - Volkswagen Settlement                                                                  
             $400.0 SDPR                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          9. Named Recipient Grant - Voice of the Arctic                                                                      
             Inupiat $1,000.0 UGF                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger highlighted that  the Power Cost Equalization                                                                    
(PCE) fund experienced  substantial earnings, therefore, the                                                                    
entirety of the waterfall  programs was funded, displayed on                                                                    
items  6 and  7.  He  pointed to  the  $5  million from  the                                                                    
Coronavirus State  and Local Fiscal Recovery  Funds (CSLFRF)                                                                    
for the Alaska Travel Industry Association.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:58:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  spoke  to   the  Power  Cost  Equalization                                                                    
Funding and the waterfall spending.  He pointed to the Rural                                                                    
Power  Systems Upgrades  and asked  if  it was  part of  the                                                                    
Renewable  Energy Grant  fund. Mr.  Steininger replied  that                                                                    
the waterfall  was allowed for Community  Assistance and for                                                                    
deposit into  the Renewable Energy Grant  and other projects                                                                    
specifically related  to the purpose  of PCE  for decreasing                                                                    
power  costs.  He elucidated  that  the  rural power  system                                                                    
upgrades fell under  the statutory framework of  the type of                                                                    
project allowed.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger turned  to slide  8 to  continue to  discuss                                                                    
projects for Department of  Commerce, Community and Economic                                                                    
Development  (DCCED)  and  projects for  the  Department  of                                                                    
Environmental Conservation (DEC).                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Commerce, Community & Economic Development                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
          City of Palmer Wastewater Treatment Plant                                                                             
          Improvements -Phase II $6,900.0 Fed CSLFRF                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
          Economic Recovery Mariculture Incentive Grant                                                                         
          Program $25,000.0 Fed CSLFRF                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Environmental Conservation                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
          Drinking Water Capitalization Grant Subsidy                                                                           
          $2,900.0 DWF                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          Clean Water Capitalization Grant Subsidy $1,000.0                                                                     
          CWF                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Village  Safe   Water  and   Wastewater  Infrastructure                                                                    
     Projects:   First    Time   Service   Projects$43,350.0                                                                    
     ($11,700.0 GF Match, $300.0 SDPR, $31,350.0 Fed)                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Village  Safe   Water  and   Wastewater  Infrastructure                                                                    
     Projects:   Expansion,  Upgrade, placement  of Existing                                                                    
     Service   $28,900.0   ($7,800.0   UGF,   $200.0   SDPR,                                                                    
     $20,900.0 Fed)                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:01:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger continued to slide 9:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Environmental Conservation                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Fairbanks  PM2.5 Nonattainment  Area Voluntary  Heating                                                                    
     Device Change Out Program $5,684.8 Fed                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     EVOS Impaired Beaches Project $658.4 Other  EVOSS                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Family and Community Services                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     MH:    Deferred     Maintenance    and    Accessibility                                                                    
     Improvements $500.0 ($250.0 GF/MH, $250.0 MHTAAR)                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger advanced to slide 10:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
   Fish and Game                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     1. Sport Fish  Recreational Boating  and Angler  Access                                                                  
        $3,000.0 ($2,250.0 Fed, $750.0 Fish & Game Fund)                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
   2. Pacific Coastal Salmon Recovery Fund $4,400.0 Fed                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     3. Facilities,  Vessels,   and  Aircraft   Maintenance,                                                                  
        Repair, and Upgrades $500.0 UGF                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     4.  Endangered  Species   Act  $4,000.0   ($1,750  Fed,                                                                  
        $2,000.0 UGF, $250.0 SDPR)                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     5. Pacific Salmon  Treaty  Chinook  Fishery  Mitigation                                                                  
        $6,400.0 Fed                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     6. EVOS Kenai Peninsula Cost Share $400.0 EVOSS                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     7. EVOS  Prince  William  Sound   Pollock  and  Herring                                                                  
        Interaction $4,129.3 EVOSS                                                                                              
    8. EVOS Mariculture - Marine Mammals $1,660.0 EVOSS                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     9.  Proceeds of Sale of State-owned Vessels and                                                                          
        Aircrafts $150.0 DGF                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     10. EVOS Gulf Watch Alaska Herring Research and                                                                          
        Monitoring $1,908.3 EVOSS                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger identified  item  9 and  explained that  the                                                                    
item was  a new  concept and allowed  the department  to use                                                                    
the  proceeds from  the sale  of  a vessel  or aircraft  for                                                                    
maintenance or  replacement costs. He noted  that there were                                                                    
a number of projects using Exxon Valdez Oil Spill funding.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Josephson   asked    for   further   detail                                                                    
concerning  item  4.  Mr.   Steininger  explained  that  the                                                                    
funding was used to help  the state ensure the determination                                                                    
of an  endangered species  was done  accurately and  to help                                                                    
with  a   response  to  a  determination.   He  thought  the                                                                    
commissioner  could  offer  further  detail.  Representative                                                                    
Josephson  asked  if  the appropriation  would  be  tied  to                                                                    
funding  in  the Department  of  Law  (DOL). Mr.  Steininger                                                                    
answered in the  negative and reiterated that  the money was                                                                    
being used  to research  the determination of  an endangered                                                                    
species.  The Department  of Law  could be  involved if  the                                                                    
determination was disputed.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:05:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger moved  to  the Office  of  the Governor  and                                                                    
Department  of Health  and Social  Services (DHSS)  on Slide                                                                    
11.:                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
   Governor                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     1.   Statewide Deferred Maintenance, Renovation, and                                                                     
               Repair $23,880.0 DGF (ACIF)                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
   Health                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     1. MH: Home Modification and Upgrades to Retain Housing                                                                  
        $1,150.0 ($1,050.0 UGF, $100.0 MHTAAR)                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     2. MH: Essential Program Equipment $600.0 ($300.0 UGF,                                                                   
        $300.0 MHTAAR)                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          3.Emergency Medical Services Match for Code Blue                                                                      
            Project $500.0 GF Match                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
          4.MH: Assistive Technology $500.0 UGF                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  reported  that  the  appropriation  in  the                                                                    
governor's office  budget was to respond  to statewide needs                                                                    
for deferred maintenance.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:06:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger continued to report  on projects for DHSS and                                                                    
projects  for Department  of Military  and Veterans  Affairs                                                                    
(DMVA) on Slide 12:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Health - continued                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          7.     Division  of Public Assistance  E-forms and                                                                    
          Online Noticing  $8,000.0 ($4,000.0  Fed, $4,000.0                                                                    
          CSLFRF)                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
          8.     Division  of Public  Assistance Eligibility                                                                    
          System   Replacement  $23,500.0   ($18,800.0  Fed,                                                                    
          $4,700.0 CSLFRF)                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          9.    Health  Record Infrastructure Improvements -                                                                    
          $30,000.0 Fed - Coronavirus Capital Projects Fund                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Military and Veterans Affairs                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
          1.       State  Homeland  Security Grant  Programs                                                                    
          $9,000.0 Fed                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          2.    DMVA  Deferred Maintenance, Replacement, and                                                                    
          Renewal $12,000.0 Fed                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger discussed  item  9. He  elaborated that  the                                                                    
total pot of  money in the listed Coronavirus  fund was $112                                                                    
million. The  appropriation would help to  respond to events                                                                    
and needs  that became apparent  during the pandemic  and to                                                                    
assist  with  distance  education  related  to  health.  The                                                                    
project was  responding to  the need  for access  to medical                                                                    
records and medical information.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon returned  to slide  7 and  asked about                                                                    
item 2  listed as Community  Block Grants and  wondered what                                                                    
communities benefited. Mr. Steininger would provide a list                                                                      
to the committee.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:10:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger continued to slide 13 regarding projects for                                                                     
Department of Natural Resources (DNR):                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
   Natural Resources                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
        1. National  Recreational   Trails   Federal   Grant                                                                  
          Program $1,650.0 ($150.0 UGF, $1,500.0 Fed)                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
        2. Abandoned Mine Lands Reclamation  Federal Program                                                                  
          $3,200.0 Fed                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
        3.  National  Historic   Preservation  Fund   $800.0                                                                  
          ($200.0 SDPR, $600.0 Fed)                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
        4. Land and Water  Conservation  Fund Federal  Grant                                                                  
          Program $4,200.0 ($1,600.0 UGF, $2,600.0 Fed)                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        5. Federal  and  Local   Government  Funded   Forest                                                                  
          Resource and Fire Program $7,000.0 Fed                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        6. Geological Mapping for  Energy Development  (USGS                                                                  
          STATEMAP) $1,200.0 ($600.0 UGF, $600.0 Fed)                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
        7. State Park Electronic Fee Stations $650.0 UGF                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
        8. Arctic  Strategic  Transportation   and  Resource                                                                  
          Project $2,500.0 UGF                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
        9. Land Sales -  New Subdivision  Development $500.0                                                                  
          DGF - State Land Disposal Income                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:11:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger moved to slide 14 to continue discussing                                                                         
projects for DNR and the Department of Public Safety(DPS):                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Natural Resources - continued                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
          10. RS2477 Access Development - Advancing State's                                                                     
          Rights in Navigability and Revised Statute 2477                                                                       
          $2,500.0 UGF                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          11. Potter Marsh Watershed Conservation Project                                                                       
          Phase I $1,000.0 Fed                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          12.Statewide Park Sanitation Deferred Maintenance                                                                     
          and Facility Upgrades $1,418.0 Fed - CSLFRF                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          13.Eagle River Fire Crew Facility $13,856.4 Fed -                                                                     
          Coronavirus Capital Projects Fund                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
          14.Big Eddy EVOS Restoration and Improvements                                                                         
          $4,329.6 EVOSS                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          15.Food Security Agriculture Incentive Grant                                                                          
          Program $25,000.0 CSLFRF                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
   Public Safety                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        1. Law Enforcement Off Highway Vehicle Replacement                                                                    
          $750.0 UGF                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
        2.  Marine Fisheries Patrol Improvements $1,200.0                                                                     
          Fed                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:12:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster cited  item 10 and indicated  that a related                                                                    
board was  previously moth-balled. He wondered  if the board                                                                    
was being reconstituted.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger deferred to DNR for the answer.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:13:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
THERESA CROSS,  ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICE  DIRECTOR, DEPARTMENT                                                                    
OF  NATURAL  RESOURCES,  OFFICE OF  MANAGEMENT  AND  BUDGET,                                                                    
OFFICE OF  THE GOVERNOR (via teleconference),  would provide                                                                    
the information to the committee in writing.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  recalled that the  board was  the Citizens'                                                                    
Advisory Commission on Federal Areas (CACFA).                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson confirmed the boards name.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:14:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger advanced  to slide  15  listing the  Capital                                                                    
projects for the Department of Revenue (DOR):                                                                                   
     Revenue                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
          1.        AHFC  Supplemental  Housing  Development                                                                    
          Program $2,750.0 UGF  - AHFC Div                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          2.     AHFC Housing and  Urban Development Capital                                                                    
          Fund Program $3,200.0 Fed                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
          3.     AHFC Housing and  Urban Development Federal                                                                    
          HOME  Grant  $4,750.0  ($750.0  UGF     AHFC  Div,                                                                    
          $4,000.0 Fed)                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          4.     AHFC  Federal and Other  Competitive Grants                                                                    
          $7,500.0 ($1,500.0 UGF  AHFC Div, $6,000.0 Fed)                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          5.     AHFC Competitive Grants  for Public Housing                                                                    
          $1,350.0 ($350.0 UGF  AHFC Div, $1,000.0 Fed)                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          6.     AHFC Energy Efficiency  Research $500.0 UGF                                                                    
            AHFC Div                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
          7.       MH: AHFC  Beneficiary  and Special  Needs                                                                    
          Housing $3,450.0  ($1,750.0 GF/MF,  $200.0 MHTAAR,                                                                    
          $1,500.0 UGF  AHFC Div)                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
          8.        MH:  AHFC  Homeless  Assistance  Program                                                                    
          $8,100.0 ($850.0  GF/MH, $6,300.0 UGF    AHFC Div,                                                                    
          $950.0 MHTAAR)                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:15:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  moved to slide 16  showing additional Alaska                                                                    
Housing Finance  Corporation (AHFC)  projects under  DOR and                                                                    
capital projects  for the  Department of  Transportation and                                                                    
Public Facilities (DOT):                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Revenue - continued                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
        9   AHFC   Teacher,   Health   and   Public   Safety                                                                    
        Professionals Housing $2,250.0 ($1,750.0 UGF  AHFC                                                                      
        Div, $500.0 SDPR)                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
        10  AHFC Energy Programs Weatherization $4,800.0                                                                      
          ($3,000.0 Fed, $1,800.0 UGF  AHFC Div)                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        11.  AHFC Rental Assistance for Persons Displaced                                                                       
        Due to Domestic Violence - Empowering Choice Housing                                                                    
        Program (ECHP) $1,500.0 UGF  AHFC Div                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
   11.    MH: AHFC Senior Citizens Housing Predevelopment                                                                     
     Program $500.0 UGF  AHFC Div                                                                                               
   12.                                                                                                                          
        13.  AHFC Senior Citizens Housing Development                                                                           
        Program $1,000.0 UGF  AHFC Div                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
   Transportation and Public Facilities                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        1. Federal-Aid Aviation State Match $17,600.0 UGF                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
        2. Alaska Marine Highway System (AMHS) Vessel                                                                         
          Overhaul, Annual Certification and Shoreside                                                                          
          Facilities Rehabilitation $20,000.0 AMHS Fund                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        3. State Equipment Fleet Replacement $25,000.0 Other                                                                  
          Highways/Equipment Working Capital Fund                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz  asked if  the  funding  for AMHS  was  GF                                                                    
appropriation  versus  federal   infrastructure  money.  Mr.                                                                    
Steininger replied  that the  $20 million  was DGF  from the                                                                    
Marine Highway  System Fund. He understood  that there would                                                                    
be IIJA federal funding for AMHS, but details were unknown.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:17:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger continued to report on projects for DOT on                                                                       
slide 17:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
   Transportation and Public Facilities - continued                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     1. Federal Transit Administration Grants $26,670.0 Fed                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     2. MH: Coordinated Transportation and Vehicles $1,300.0                                                                  
        ($1,000.0 MH GF, $300.0 MHTAAR)                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     5.   Cooperative    Reimbursable   Projects   $15,000.0                                                                    
     ($5,000.0 Fed, $10,000 DGF  SDPR)                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     6.      Alaska  International Airport  System $68,722.1                                                                    
     ($722.1  Other     International  Airport  Construction                                                                    
     Fund,  $20,800.0 Other     Int.  Airport Revenue  Fund,                                                                    
     $47,200.0 Fed)                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
    7.    Surface Transportation Program $669,500.0 Fed                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     8.    Highway Safety Grants Program $8,033.9 ($130.6                                                                       
     UGF, $8,000.0 Fed)                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     9.    Federal Emergency Projects $10,000.0 Fed                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
    10.  Other Federal Program Match $1,300.0 GF Match                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     11.  Alaska International Airport System $81,700.3                                                                         
     ($9,561.0 Other  Int. Airport Revenue Fund, $72,139.2                                                                      
     Fed)                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     12.  Rural Airport Improvement Program $200,000.0 Fed                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
    13.  Federal-Aid Highway State Match $70,200.0 UGF                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  highlighted   Slide  18  including  capital                                                                    
projects for the University of  Alaska (UA) and Judiciary on                                                                    
Slide 18:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     University                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
          1.    Student Information Technology Systems                                                                          
          $20,000.0 Fed - Coronavirus Capital Projects Fund                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
          2.    Seward Marine Center Research Vessel                                                                            
          Infrastructure $94,400.0 Fed                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Courts                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
        1.    Court Security Projects $1,130.0 UGF                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
          2.    Courts Statewide Deferred Maintenance                                                                           
          $2,300.0 UGF                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:18:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  moved to  Slide 18  [Title Page]  the second                                                                    
portion of  his presentation  regarding the FY  2022 Capital                                                                    
Supplemental,  HB 283  Supplemental  in  FY 2023  Governors                                                                     
Budget, and HB 284 Fast Track Supplemental capital items.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:19:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick  asked who made  the request for  the Eagle                                                                    
River  Fire  facility.  Mr. Steininger  responded  that  the                                                                    
request was  made through  the department.  Co-Chair Merrick                                                                    
reported  that a  request  for a  community  center was  not                                                                    
something  she  was  aware  of and  wondered  who  made  the                                                                    
request for  the community center. Mr.  Steininger indicated                                                                    
that it  was an  idea that  was borne  out of  tailoring the                                                                    
project  to  meet  the  needs  of  the  Coronavirus  Capital                                                                    
Project  funds, which  required that  the facility  was more                                                                    
multi-use.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:21:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Steininger   addressed   Slide   20   titled    FY2022                                                                    
Supplemental   Projects.   The   chart   showed  the   total                                                                    
Supplemental Capital  spending by department broken  down by                                                                    
funding source.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  continued  to  slide  21  Titled   FY  2022                                                                    
Supplemental Projects   showing both regular and  fast track                                                                    
supplemental projects:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Administration                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
          1.    *Alaska  Rural Communications Service (ARCS)                                                                    
          FCC License Surrenders and Renewals Update                                                                            
          $1,650.0 ($,500.0 UGF, $1,130.0 Fed)                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          2.       **Azure  Adoption  to Assist  with  Cloud                                                                    
          Migration $23,116.0 UGF                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Commerce, Community & Economic Development                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
          1.     *Replace Alcohol  Licensing Database $750.0                                                                    
          UGF                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          2.       *Alaska  Energy  Authority  -  Electrical                                                                    
         Vehicle Infrastructure Plan $1,150.0 UGF                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
          3.     *Alaska  Energy Authority -  Strategic Plan                                                                    
          for Railbelt Assets $2,500.0 UGF                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Corrections                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          1.       *Hiland  Mountain  Intake  Administration                                                                    
          Project $4,500.0 UGF                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          2.         *Yukon  Kuskokwim  Correctional  Center                                                                    
        Recreational Area Renovations $3,170.0 UGF                                                                              
          3.    *Statewide Backup Power System Evaluation                                                                       
          and Upgrade Program $350.0 UGF                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          4.    **Suicide Prevention Barriers $750.0 UGF                                                                        
          *HB 283 Supplemental in 2023 Governor ** HB 284                                                                       
          Fast Track Supplemental                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  indicated that  the fast  track supplemental                                                                    
was introduced to address more  urgent needs. Other projects                                                                    
included would benefit from earlier  funding but were not as                                                                    
urgent and  there would be  distinct benefits  from advanced                                                                    
funding.  The  second  item  was   more  urgent  because  of                                                                    
security issues.  The amount would  be used for  an analysis                                                                    
of what  would need to  be done  to move data  securely into                                                                    
the internet Cloud.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:26:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson had not  seen a $750,000 request in                                                                    
the capital  budget. He asked  if it was a  normal practice.                                                                    
Mr.  Steininger   explained  that  the   administration  had                                                                    
identified  available revenues  to  address  the backlog  of                                                                    
capital  demand. He  noted that  it was  not the  first time                                                                    
replacing  an aging  licensing database  had been  discussed                                                                    
but could not be prioritized  in a decade of austere capital                                                                    
budgets.  He  reiterated  that   FY  22  had  experienced  a                                                                    
substantial surplus. Representative  Josephson asked whether                                                                    
the $27 million  surplus in the Operating Budget  was for FY                                                                    
23.   Mr.    Steininger   replied   in    the   affirmative.                                                                    
Representative  Josephson  referred  to the  cost  of  Cloud                                                                    
migration assistance and noted that  it was a greater amount                                                                    
than what  was spent  on DEC.  Mr. Steininger  answered that                                                                    
Cloud  migration was  complicated, required  the involvement                                                                    
of several entities, and was expensive.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz  asked about item  2 under DCCED.  He asked                                                                    
what the  program entailed. Mr. Steininger  replied that the                                                                    
appropriation was  for development  of a  plan for  where to                                                                    
place the infrastructure  and would be used as  a roadmap to                                                                    
build it.  He deferred to  Alaska Energy Authority  (AEA) to                                                                    
provide further information. Vice-Chair  Ortiz did not think                                                                    
it was necessary.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:30:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carpenter  asked whether  the wind  damage at                                                                    
the   Homer   prison   needed  supplemental   funding.   Mr.                                                                    
Steininger  understood   that  insurance  would   cover  the                                                                    
damages.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:31:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger moved  to slide  22 to  discuss supplemental                                                                    
capital projects within the DEED, DHSS, and DFG:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     1.**William    N.   Miller    K-12   Memorial    School                                                                    
     Replacement,   Napakiak   $54,895.5   ($22,111.5   UGF,                                                                    
     $32,784 Other  REAA)                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Family and Community Services                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     1.*Alaska      Psychiatric      Institute      Wireless                                                                    
     Infrastructure Upgrade $500.0 UGF                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Fish and Game                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     1.*Stock Identification of Salmon Harvested in South                                                                       
     Peninsula Fisheries $2,000.0 UGF                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     2.*Alaska Marine Salmon Program $1,150.0 UGF                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     3.*Arctic Fisheries $1,000.0 UGF, $2,000 Fed                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     4.*Proceeds of Sale of State-owned Vessels and                                                                             
     Aircrafts $150.0 DGF                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
*HB 283 Supplemental  in 2023 Governor ** HB  284 Fast Track                                                                    
Supplemental                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:33:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  asked if the  Regional Educational                                                                    
Attendance  Area   (REAA)  fund   was  not   sweepable.  Mr.                                                                    
Steininger replied   in the  negative and confirmed  that it                                                                    
was  not sweepable.  He delineated  that the  REAA fund  was                                                                    
considered a   capitalized fund   and monies could  be spent                                                                    
without  further appropriation  by  the  department. It  was                                                                    
earmarked  to  show  that the  entire  project  was  funded.                                                                    
Representative  Josephson  asked  for verification  that  no                                                                    
further appropriation  action was necessary.  Mr. Steininger                                                                    
answered in  the affirmative; no  further action  was needed                                                                    
for the department to spend money out of the specific fund.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  moved to  slide 23 and  discussed the  FY 22                                                                    
capital supplemental projects for DHSS and DMVA:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Health                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
          1.*Office of Children's Services Lease Expansion                                                                      
          or Relocation $960.0 ($640.0 UGF, $320.0 Fed                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          2.**Information   Technology    Security   Program                                                                    
          Assessment $1,900.0 UGF                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Military and Veterans Affairs                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
          1.*Construction of a Certified Veterans Cemetery                                                                      
         in Fairbanks area $3,270.0 ($2,270.0 UGF,                                                                              
          $1,000.0 Fed)                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          2.*Alaska    Military    Youth   Academy    (AMYA)                                                                    
          Construction, Contingency, and Planning $750.0                                                                        
          ($150.0 UGF, $600 Fed)                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     *HB 283 Supplemental in 2023 Governor ** HB 284 Fast                                                                       
     Track Supplemental                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:36:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon  asked  for   more  detail  about  the                                                                    
veteran's  cemetery  in  Fairbanks.  He  believed  the  site                                                                    
needed  environmental cleanup.  He asked  if the  amount was                                                                    
for  purchase and  cleanup. Mr.  Steininger deferred  to the                                                                    
department for further answer.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
BOB ERNISSE, ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICE DIRECTOR, DEPARTMENT OF                                                                    
MILITARY  AND VETERANS  AFFAIRS,  OFFICE  OF MANAGEMENT  AND                                                                    
BUDGET,  OFFICE   OF  THE  GOVERNOR   (via  teleconference),                                                                    
answered that  the additional funding  would cover  the cost                                                                    
of   lead   abatement,   purchase  the   site,   and   begin                                                                    
construction.  Representative LeBon  asked  if the  location                                                                    
was off of  the Parks Highway. Mr. Ernisse  believed so, but                                                                    
he would follow up  with detail. Representative LeBon stated                                                                    
Fairbanks had been waiting quite  some time for the project.                                                                    
He asked when  the cleanup would begin.  Mr. Ernisse replied                                                                    
that he would follow up with the information.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick  asked for the ongoing  operational cost of                                                                    
the cemetery in Fairbanks.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger deferred to Mr. Ernisse.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Ernisse replied that the ongoing operational cost was                                                                       
$1 million GF and 2 full-time positions.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:39:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger advanced to slide 24 and highlighted                                                                             
increments for the Department of Natural Resources,                                                                             
Department of Public Safety, and Judiciary:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Natural Resources                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          1.*Fire Crew Vehicle Replacement $750.0 UGF                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Public Safety                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
          1.*Body   Worn   Camera   Initiative      $4,524.3                                                                    
          ($3,586.3 UGF, $938.0 Fed)                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
          2.*Mobile    and   Handheld    Radio   Replacement                                                                    
          $3,728.3 UGF                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          3.*AWT Medium-Class Vessel Replacement $1,800.0                                                                       
          UGF                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          4.*VPSO Law Enforcement Program Support $2,980.0                                                                      
          UGF                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          5.*Aircraft Purchase and Replacement $6,000.0 UGF                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
         6.*AST Unmanned Aerial System $450.0 UGF                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Judiciary                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          1.Justice Technology Upgrades and Courtroom                                                                           
          Modernization $3,917.3 UGF                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
          2.Planning and Design for Court Facilities                                                                            
          Bethel and Palmer $980.0 UGF                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     *HB 283 Supplemental in 2023 Governor ** HB 284 Fast                                                                       
     Track Supplemental                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster asked for follow up detail on item 5                                                                            
regarding the aircraft fleet.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative   LeBon    referenced   additional   troopers                                                                    
designated  for  the Mat-Su  area.  He  asked if  additional                                                                    
vehicles would  be necessary.  He asked  if the  dollars for                                                                    
the sold vehicles would be  retained by the department to go                                                                    
toward  the   purchase  of  new  vehicles.   Mr.  Steininger                                                                    
answered  that  he  would  follow   up  with  more  detailed                                                                    
information regarding  the vehicles.  He detailed  that when                                                                    
the   department  purchased   vehicles   it   paid  into   a                                                                    
depreciation  rate  to the  state  equipment  fleet and  the                                                                    
credits  built up  over time.  The amount  of credit  should                                                                    
cover the  cost of  the new vehicle  when combined  with the                                                                    
sale  of  the  old  vehicles. However,  if  there  were  not                                                                    
sufficient  credits it  would require  an appropriation.  He                                                                    
pointed to  item 1 under  DNR and noted that  the department                                                                    
did not have  enough credits to replace all  of the vehicles                                                                    
needed.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:43:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  replied to Co-Chair Foster's  question about                                                                    
the  aircrafts.  He would  follow  up  with further  detail.                                                                    
However, he  knew that  3 were  helicopters, 3  were smaller                                                                    
Cessnas,  and he  could  not  recall the  one  last type  of                                                                    
aircraft.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon  noted   that  some  capital  project                                                                    
details were missing  in the law enforcement  program in the                                                                    
capital  detail book.  Mr. Steininger  answered that  all of                                                                    
the projects  should be included  in the book, but  it might                                                                    
be organized differently than his presentation.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carpenter noted  a specific appropriation for                                                                    
school replacement for Napakiak  in the supplemental budget.                                                                    
He asked why  there were no appropriations listed  in the FY                                                                    
23  capital budget  for DEED.  Mr. Steininger  answered that                                                                    
REAA  funding was  spent without  further appropriation.  He                                                                    
furthered  that the  department  went  through its  facility                                                                    
list  each  fall there  was  money  in  the budget  to  fund                                                                    
maintenance  through the  REAA  fund and  were not  discrete                                                                    
capital budget appropriations.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:46:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz asked  how  non-REAA schools   maintenance                                                                    
was   funded.  Mr.   Steininger  cited   school  bond   debt                                                                    
reimbursement funding  and the ability for  school districts                                                                    
to  shift   K-12  foundation   formula  funding   to  school                                                                    
districts capital improvement accounts for maintenance.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  referenced the previous  point. He                                                                    
highlighted  that  school  districts  had  not  received  an                                                                    
increase to  the Base Student  Allocation (BSA) in  the past                                                                    
five years. He asked if  schools were expected to have extra                                                                    
funding for maintenance. Mr.  Steininger answered that there                                                                    
was some  flexibility in school  districts budgets  to carry                                                                    
forward balances. He offered to provide the information.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carpenter  asked if there  was a list  of the                                                                    
available  money   for  school  districts   regarding  COVID                                                                    
funding that was  discretionary and may be able  to be spent                                                                    
on maintenance. Mr. Steininger answered in the affirmative.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:48:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  noted   that  Representative  Johnson  had                                                                    
joined the meeting.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz asked where the  DEED list of projects fell                                                                    
into the  process. He asked  if it  was included in  an area                                                                    
previously  discussed.  Mr.  Steininger  answered  that  the                                                                    
school major  maintenance list  maintained by  DEED informed                                                                    
distributions for  REAA schools  and non-REAA  schools. Some                                                                    
years there  were deposits to  the school  major maintenance                                                                    
fund that  could be used  without further  appropriation. He                                                                    
offered that  it was  an objectively  ranked list  of school                                                                    
projects within  the department. Vice-Chair Ortiz  asked for                                                                    
verification  that there  was not  an  appropriation to  the                                                                    
fund  in the  governor's  proposed  budgets. Mr.  Steininger                                                                    
answered that the  resources had been put  toward the school                                                                    
replacement in Napakiak due to  the immense need. The entire                                                                    
school maintenance fund  of $22 million would  go toward the                                                                    
school replacement.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:51:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon  asked  for  verification  that  if  a                                                                    
school  was a  non-REAA  school it  was  eligible for  major                                                                    
maintenance funding  from the state  according to  the list.                                                                    
He asked  for detail  on the  list. Mr.  Steininger answered                                                                    
that he  would follow up  with the DEED list.  He reiterated                                                                    
that  there  was  not  a   deposit  into  the  school  major                                                                    
maintenance  fund in  the proposed  budget, but  monies were                                                                    
deposited  into the  REAA fund.  The  UGF was  used for  the                                                                    
largest facility  need, Napakiak  School, in the  state that                                                                    
also  happened to  be an  REAA school.  Representative LeBon                                                                    
understood that if a school  had a major maintenance need it                                                                    
had to raise the money on  its own through a local bond sale                                                                    
and relying  on a state  match was not possible  because the                                                                    
program had been discontinued.  Mr. Steininger answered that                                                                    
the  program had  not been  discontinued, but  there was  no                                                                    
funding for it  in the current budget.  Currently, the funds                                                                    
were  going toward  Napakiak  due to  the  magnitude of  the                                                                    
schools replacement need.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  remarked that when  there was a  big ticket                                                                    
item once it was funded it  cleared the way for future funds                                                                    
for other projects on the list.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  remarked that DFG  Commissioner Vincent-Lang                                                                    
was on the line if there were any questions.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:54:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster explained the  presentation had pertained to                                                                    
HB 283. He noted that GO bonds  had to be approved by a vote                                                                    
of the citizenry.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 285                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act providing  for and relating to  the issuance of                                                                    
     general obligation bonds for  the purpose of paying the                                                                    
     cost  of   state  infrastructure   projects,  including                                                                    
     construction,   major   maintenance,   and   port   and                                                                    
     transportation   projects;   and   providing   for   an                                                                    
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:54:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW: HB  285 G.O. BONDS  FOR INFRASTRUCTURE  BY OFFICE                                                                  
OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:55:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NEIL STEININGER, DIRECTOR, OFFICE  OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET,                                                                    
OFFICE   OF   THE   GOVERNOR,  introduced   the   PowerPoint                                                                    
Presentation:  "HB 285  G.O. Bonds  for Infrastructure."  He                                                                    
began on Slide 2 titled HB 285 GO bond Issuance:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
      $325.2m for 14 projects spread with statewide impact                                                                      
      Current 20-year interest rate is 2.5% for tax-exempt                                                                      
      bonds                                                                                                                     
      Debt service costs estimated at $20.7 million                                                                             
      The State's debt capacity is $1.3 billion                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  commented that the bond  package represented                                                                    
a  responsible level  of debt  compared to  the capacity  of                                                                    
debt the state  was able to accrue. He noted  that the state                                                                    
earned more than the 2.5 percent interest rate.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon asked  how the  state's debt  capacity                                                                    
was calculated.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:57:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEVEN  MITCHELL, EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR, ALASKA  MUNICIPAL BOND                                                                    
BANK AUTHORITY, DEPARTMENT  OF REVENUE (via teleconference),                                                                    
indicated that  there was  a publication  published annually                                                                    
by  DOR  called   The Debt  Affordability  Analysis,   which                                                                    
fully described  the process to  determine the  states  debt                                                                    
capacity. He  characterized the analysis as  simple relative                                                                    
to  the states   revenues versus  its modest  population. He                                                                    
explained  how  the  debt  capacity  was  calculated,  which                                                                    
determined the  percentage of UGF revenue  the debt payments                                                                    
represented.  The difference  between those  percentages and                                                                    
the percentages for debt service  determined the capacity on                                                                    
a  10-year horizon.  The  state had  a  bonding capacity  of                                                                    
approximately $1.3 billion.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:59:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon calculated  that  64  percent of  the                                                                    
debt  capacity went  towards Mat-Susitna  (Mat-Su) projects.                                                                    
He  did  not  see  the  Anchorage  Port.  He  asked  for  an                                                                    
explanation.    Mr.   Steininger    thought    he   had    a                                                                    
misinterpretation of  the project. He offered  that the Knik                                                                    
Arm  Port Infrastructure  $175,000.0  project  was for  Port                                                                    
McKenzie and  the Port of  Alaska. The project  was intended                                                                    
to  serve the  region. Representative  Edgmon asked  whether                                                                    
some of the $175 million for  the Knik Arm Port was intended                                                                    
for  the Port  of Alaska.  Mr. Steininger  responded in  the                                                                    
affirmative.  The funding  would go  towards the  two ports,                                                                    
and it would be up to  the ports to determine the percentage                                                                    
distribution.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:01:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  observed that  there was  nothing for                                                                    
his district  in the  bill. He maintained  that the  GO Bond                                                                    
was  directed to  South Central  and there  was nothing  for                                                                    
Southwest  Alaska. He  was determined  to include  statewide                                                                    
projects if the bill moves forward.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:02:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  had never  heard  of  a Knik  Arm                                                                    
Port.  He  asked why  the  administration  did not  want  to                                                                    
engage  in  the  discussion  between   the  two  ports.  Mr.                                                                    
Steininger  clarified  that  the  administration  wanted  to                                                                    
engage but  wanted both ports  to look  at the project  as a                                                                    
statewide project  and view the  project through  a regional                                                                    
scope. He indicated that was why  it was called the Knik Arm                                                                    
Port  Infrastructure.  Representative Josephson  pointed  to                                                                    
Slide 3  titled  HB285 GO Bond  Projects  items 9 and  11 of                                                                    
the presentation:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     9.Palmer Municipal Airport Taxiway $6,500.0                                                                              
     10.Wasilla Airport Runway and Terminal $14,100.0                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson asked  if  the  Palmer or  Wasilla                                                                    
Airports received any Coronavirus  Aid, Relief, and Economic                                                                    
Security (CARES)  Act funding. Mr. Steininger  was unsure of                                                                    
the amount.  He could get  back to  the committee as  to how                                                                    
much each airport received.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:04:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Rasmussen  noted  that the  Port  of  Alaska                                                                    
supported   90   percent   of  Alaska   providing   critical                                                                    
infrastructure for  the entire  state. She  would appreciate                                                                    
any  additional  information  from the  administration.  Mr.                                                                    
Steininger agreed with her assessment of the port.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:05:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson indicated  that the project summary                                                                    
referred  to  the  project  as being  managed  by  a  shared                                                                    
regional  authority. He  asked if  it was  one that  existed                                                                    
currently.  Mr. Steininger  replied that  the intention  was                                                                    
there would be cooperative  between the two entities whether                                                                    
or not that  was borne out of a formal  organization not yet                                                                    
established. Representative Josephson  thought the situation                                                                    
seemed combustible.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thompson  cited Slide  3, item 2  that listed                                                                    
bond projects for DOT:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     2.Northern Access to University Medical District                                                                           
     $22,000.0                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  answered  that  the  project  installed  an                                                                    
intersection to connect two main roads.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon  asked about  the status of  the Juneau                                                                    
Access Road listed as item 1 under DOT projects:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Juneau Access $25,000.0                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger replied  that it was for  Northern Lynn Canal                                                                    
access. Representative  LeBon asked  if the  project related                                                                    
to  extending the  road system  to Skagway  and Haines.  Mr.                                                                    
Steininger  reported  that it  was  funding  to restart  the                                                                    
project.  However, additional  funding  would  be needed  to                                                                    
complete  the   project.  Representative  LeBon   asked  for                                                                    
clarification. Mr. Steininger answered  that the project was                                                                    
put  on hold  at  the federal  level  and the  appropriation                                                                    
would  reactivate  the  project.  He  deferred  to  DOT  for                                                                    
details.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:09:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon referred to item 1 on slide 3:                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     UAF -Bartlett Hall and Moore Hall Modernization and                                                                        
     Renewal $18,650.0                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon   asked  why   the  project   for  the                                                                    
University  was not  a GF  request. He  wondered why  it was                                                                    
being included  in the bond package.  Mr. Steininger replied                                                                    
that it  was included in  an attempt to address  the backlog                                                                    
and  the project  was eligible  for bonding.  Representative                                                                    
LeBon  asked if  the bond  package did  not pass,  would the                                                                    
administration come  forward with  a capital request  for GF                                                                    
dollars. He inquired  if the bond package would  be voted on                                                                    
in   November  2022.   Mr.  Steininger   responded  in   the                                                                    
affirmative. The administration  was supportive of including                                                                    
the  project  in  the  bond  package.  Representative  LeBon                                                                    
reminded Mr. Steininger of the  importance of the University                                                                    
project even without bonding.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  was concerned about hearing  that the                                                                    
administration had  reached out to  Representative Rasmussen                                                                    
about the bond  package but possibly not all  members of the                                                                    
committee,   like   himself  who   represented   significant                                                                    
commercial fishing  districts. He  asked if he  was correct.                                                                    
Mr.  Steininger   responded  that  he  was   unsure  of  the                                                                    
question. He  indicated that the administration  had reached                                                                    
out    to    legislators   regarding    capital    projects.                                                                    
Representative Edgmon was disappointed  that no one from the                                                                    
administration  had  contacted  him.   He  offered  that  he                                                                    
represented   Bristol  Bay   and  the   fishery  contributed                                                                    
significantly to  the salmon industry.  He wondered  why the                                                                    
area was  not considered  for port and  harbor improvements.                                                                    
He  understood Anchorage  was seeking  more funding  for its                                                                    
port than the  amount included in the  capital requests, and                                                                    
he would support  additional funding for the  Alaska Port in                                                                    
Anchorage. The term that was  used derisively was "Christmas                                                                    
Treeing" in bond packages. However,  he liked the concept of                                                                    
bond packages and  wanted it to be more  inclusive. He would                                                                    
like the  opportunity to discuss  the possibility to  add to                                                                    
the  bond package  and would  advocate  strenuously for  his                                                                    
district. He asked Mr. Steininger for further remarks.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:15:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger offered that the  bond package was a starting                                                                    
point. The  administration was willing  to discuss  the bond                                                                    
package and would be open to additional conversations.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Rasmussen  clarified that she  had approached                                                                    
the  administration  to  discuss  the budget  and  the  bond                                                                    
package. She  appreciated that  they took  the time  to meet                                                                    
with her  to answer  questions. She  hoped the  bond package                                                                    
would encompass the entirety of the state.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:15:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz asked about the  timing of putting together                                                                    
the G.O.  Bond proposal.  He asked if  it occurred  prior to                                                                    
the  passage   of  the  federal  infrastructure   bill.  Mr.                                                                    
Steininger responded  in the affirmative and  added that the                                                                    
administration had prepared a package  in the prior year and                                                                    
the work had continued. He  explained that there was synergy                                                                    
between the infrastructure package  and the GO bond package.                                                                    
However, the  prioritizations on infrastructure  spending in                                                                    
IIJA happened  on the federal  level. The IIJA bill  did not                                                                    
negate the need for  some Alaska specific priorities because                                                                    
of IIJAs   project specificity, it lacked  flexibility. They                                                                    
worked together in tandem, but  one was not dependent on the                                                                    
other. Vice-Chair Ortiz discussed  the avoidance of debt and                                                                    
possibility  of a  direct appropriation  of $300  million on                                                                    
capital projects instead of issuing  a GO bond package since                                                                    
recent  reporting  suggested  that market  conditions  would                                                                    
likely not  be favorable for  a bonding package by  the fall                                                                    
of  2022.  Mr.  Steininger   would  defer  to  Mr.  Mitchell                                                                    
regarding speculation  on interest  rates. He  answered that                                                                    
in terms  of issuing  debt through  bonds versus  using UGF,                                                                    
the state's money would earn  more than the interest paid on                                                                    
a  bond debt.  Surplus  funds  could be  saved  at a  higher                                                                    
interest rate than the interest rate on debt.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:20:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mitchell responded that it  was difficult to predict the                                                                    
future.  However, the  consensus  view of  various banks  he                                                                    
worked with  was that interest  rates would likely  rise. He                                                                    
discussed  the use  of  arbitrage and  the  yield curve.  He                                                                    
explained  that  when  the  Federal  Reserve  increased  the                                                                    
overnight interest  rate it did  not impact the long  end of                                                                    
the  yield curve.  The  short  end of  the  yield curve  was                                                                    
expected  to increase  one  percent, but  the  long end  was                                                                    
expected to  remain in a  low end environment.  He concluded                                                                    
that  it  appeared  that  it   was  reasonable  to  consider                                                                    
borrowing that  was carefully  considered in  recognition of                                                                    
the financial strengths of having a debt program.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:25:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Carpenter    returned    to    the    Port                                                                    
infrastructure  of $175  million.  He wondered  who had  the                                                                    
authority  of   divvying  up   the  money.   Mr.  Steininger                                                                    
responded  that  the authority  would  be  managed by  DCCED                                                                    
through  named  recipient grants.  Representative  Carpenter                                                                    
suggested that the  easiest way to get the G.O.  Bond was to                                                                    
divvy  up the  funding 40  ways. He  suggested developing  a                                                                    
prioritization list  based on  objective criteria.  He could                                                                    
not see  that from the  current list. He asked  whether that                                                                    
was possible. Mr. Steininger responded  that as the list was                                                                    
developed,   regionality  and   the  statewide   impact  was                                                                    
considered.  The administration  was  open  to discuss  with                                                                    
communities how  the prioritization  worked and  the reasons                                                                    
for the need for certain projects.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:29:27 PM                                                                                                                    
Representative  Carpenter  suggested  that if  there  was  a                                                                    
priority  list,  he  had  not received  one.  He  thought  a                                                                    
deliberate priority  process should  be done  in conjunction                                                                    
with  the legislature;  lacking one,  the legislature  would                                                                    
establish its own priorities and  it would be political. Mr.                                                                    
Steininger responded  that the  list in the  legislation was                                                                    
the  output of  the prioritization  that the  administration                                                                    
engaged in.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:31:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick   thought  Representative   Carpenter  had                                                                    
brought  up  a  good  point about  the  port  projects.  She                                                                    
referenced a  letter from Legislative  Legal (copy  on file)                                                                    
regarding    constitutional    issues    with    the    port                                                                    
appropriations since  there  was no guarantee  how the money                                                                    
would  be spent.   Mr. Steininger  requested a  copy of  the                                                                    
memo to pass on to the Department of Law.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Rasmussen suggested  a presentation regarding                                                                    
the deep  ports in the state.  She was aware of  the Port of                                                                    
Alaska being  in poor condition.  She wanted  a presentation                                                                    
in  which each  project was  discussed for  15 minutes.  She                                                                    
discussed issues with the Kodiak Fire Hall.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:33:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon cited  the discussion  about arbitrage                                                                    
and earning more in savings  than paying on debt. He pointed                                                                    
to  the Constitutional  Budget Reserve  (CBR) and  Statutory                                                                    
Budget Reserve (SBR) and did  not view robust investment. He                                                                    
noted the high  earnings of the Permanent  Fund and wondered                                                                    
if the administration intended to  use the percent of market                                                                    
value  (POMV)   earnings  to  repay  the   bond  debts.  Mr.                                                                    
Steininger reported the repayment  would come from UGF which                                                                    
was significantly filled by the POMV earnings of the PF.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  agreed that  he would like  to see                                                                    
the objective  basis for the  projects. He commented  on the                                                                    
poor condition of  the Port of Anchorage  and questioned the                                                                    
proposal to dividing the funding between two ports.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz  reviewed  the agenda  for  the  following                                                                    
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:36:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 3:36 p.m.                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 285 Transmittal Letter 011722.pdf HFIN 1/28/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 285
HB285 (H)FIN GO Bond Project Backup 01.28.22.pdf HFIN 1/28/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 285
HB285 (H)FIN GO Bond List 01.28.22.pdf HFIN 1/28/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 285
HB 285 B.O. Bond Legal Memo 012722.pdf HFIN 1/28/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 285
HB 283 22.01.28 OMB Capital Budget Overview HFIN.pdf HFIN 1/28/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 283
HB 285 22.01.28 OMB GO BOND Overview HFIN.pdf HFIN 1/28/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 285
HFC 1.28.22 Response to Q OMB -Supplemental 020722.pdf HFIN 1/28/2022 1:30:00 PM
Capital OMB Response to 01.28.2022 HFIN Questions.pdf HFIN 1/28/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 283
Attachment 1 to OMB Captial - DPS Vehicle Information December 2021.pdf HFIN 1/28/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 283
Capital OMB DEED Op Fund Compliance Test 011822.pdf HFIN 1/28/2022 1:30:00 PM
Attachment 2 Capital OMB HFIN 012822
HB 283
Capital OMB Attachment 3 - COVID Relief Funds - School District Allocations.pdf HFIN 1/28/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 283
OMB Capital HFIN 012822
HB 285 Public Testimony Rec'd by 2.15.22.pdf HFIN 1/28/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 285
HB 285 FY23 AMD GO Bond 1160 Project Review Listing.pdf HFIN 1/28/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 285
HB 285 FY23 AMD GO Bond Project Summary.pdf HFIN 1/28/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 285